Suppose this is 7 years of observational data of 70 fruits trees at 23 different sites
where "n_obs" is the number of fruits on a limb of a tree and "n_inf" is the number
of infected fruits.
The aim is to assess the impact of the max temperature-humidity index during a growing
season (thi) measured over seven growing seasons (time)
The data is hierarchical, with site at the top level, tree nested in site and
individual observations of fruit at the bottom level.
This is aggregated binary data (infected or not infected (0/1).
Additionally, the data is longitudinal, with observations on the same trees being
repeated each year (or growing season; "time").
While this data is not real, the real data has a lot of missing outcome data (n_inf),
in that follow-up time for trees varied. Some trees contributed one timepoint, others
a five-year interval, others just the first two years and the last two year.
Clearly there is a hierarchical structure, which is straightforward to specify:
meglm n_inf thi || site: || tree: , family(binomial n_obs) link(logit)
(1) Could this model sufficiently deal with time, by specifying the random effect for tree?
(2) We are not interested in comparing the proportion infected fruits between years,
arguing that time should not be treated as a fixed effect. But is this contradicted
by the idea that it is of interest to average results over the seven years?
(3) Separately, what kind of argument would support treating time as a random effect?
(4) Finally, does the complicated missing outcome data described above impact (1) - (3)?
Any papers on a similar subject would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
where "n_obs" is the number of fruits on a limb of a tree and "n_inf" is the number
of infected fruits.
The aim is to assess the impact of the max temperature-humidity index during a growing
season (thi) measured over seven growing seasons (time)
The data is hierarchical, with site at the top level, tree nested in site and
individual observations of fruit at the bottom level.
This is aggregated binary data (infected or not infected (0/1).
Additionally, the data is longitudinal, with observations on the same trees being
repeated each year (or growing season; "time").
While this data is not real, the real data has a lot of missing outcome data (n_inf),
in that follow-up time for trees varied. Some trees contributed one timepoint, others
a five-year interval, others just the first two years and the last two year.
Clearly there is a hierarchical structure, which is straightforward to specify:
meglm n_inf thi || site: || tree: , family(binomial n_obs) link(logit)
(1) Could this model sufficiently deal with time, by specifying the random effect for tree?
(2) We are not interested in comparing the proportion infected fruits between years,
arguing that time should not be treated as a fixed effect. But is this contradicted
by the idea that it is of interest to average results over the seven years?
(3) Separately, what kind of argument would support treating time as a random effect?
(4) Finally, does the complicated missing outcome data described above impact (1) - (3)?
Any papers on a similar subject would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Code:
* Example generated by -dataex-. For more info, type help dataex clear input float site long tree float(time thi) double n_inf long n_obs float(log_thi prop_inf) 59 90043 5 66.41 0 15 4.1958475 0 70 90054 6 65.57 0 16 4.1831183 0 47 50666 4 71.72 0 20 4.2727695 0 80 52166 4 66.31 0 30 4.1943407 0 74 52455 6 68.28 0 16 4.223617 0 81 52783 3 70.47 0 15 4.255187 0 80 52247 7 71.58 0 32 4.270816 0 22 50998 2 65.1 0 30 4.1759243 0 40 90041 3 67.55 0 15 4.212868 0 77 52295 3 67.04 0 15 4.2052894 0 74 52843 3 69.89 0 15 4.2469225 0 87 90012 7 70.81 0 15 4.26 0 87 90012 6 68.22 0 15 4.222738 0 40 50509 6 71.28 0 16 4.266616 0 1 90049 2 60.99 0 30 4.11071 0 80 52115 1 64.24 0 30 4.1626263 0 47 50665 7 68.86 0 15 4.2320757 0 79 52330 5 67.04 0 15 4.2052894 0 74 52414 6 65.66 0 15 4.18449 0 87 90018 6 71.98 0 16 4.276388 0 74 52462 2 64.68 0 15 4.169452 0 71 52815 4 71.63 0 21 4.271514 0 80 52702 4 62.61 0 62 4.136925 0 87 90018 4 70.81 0 15 4.26 0 22 50985 7 63.64 0 31 4.153242 0 74 52399 5 70.21 0 31 4.2514906 0 70 52810 7 67.88 0 22 4.2177415 0 74 52146 1 70.45 0 16 4.2549033 0 59 90043 7 61.42 0 15 4.1177354 0 59 90047 3 65.57 0 16 4.1831183 0 81 52783 7 71.04 0 15 4.263243 0 70 90055 7 68.32 0 15 4.2242026 0 74 52408 2 68.35 0 31 4.2246413 0 74 52732 3 70.78 0 14 4.2595763 0 70 52810 4 62.61 0 27 4.136925 0 22 50998 4 69.37 0 30 4.2394547 0 40 50502 5 72.03 0 16 4.277083 0 20 50761 7 68.19 0 16 4.222298 0 22 50985 6 70.95 0 17 4.2619753 0 85 90022 1 71.49 0 16 4.2695575 0 80 52749 4 63.51 0 30 4.1511974 0 75 52366 1 66.05 0 15 4.190412 0 74 52415 2 68.5 0 16 4.226834 0 47 50666 3 69.12 0 15 4.235844 0 87 90018 3 63.13 0 15 4.145196 0 79 52251 1 69.99 0 15 4.2483525 0 12 90042 4 72.22 0 15 4.279717 0 40 50505 2 64.61 0 15 4.1683693 0 74 52427 5 67.66 0 15 4.214495 0 80 52382 3 69.83 0 32 4.2460637 0 59 90047 2 68.21 0 15 4.2225914 0 47 50874 4 68.05 0 29 4.220243 0 80 52346 7 69.67 0 62 4.2437696 0 79 52251 2 67.48 0 15 4.211831 0 74 52438 1 68.28 0 16 4.223617 0 12 90042 7 71.01 0 16 4.2628207 0 87 90018 5 66.75 0 15 4.2009544 0 62 90059 7 66.66 0 14 4.199605 0 80 52342 3 65.62 0 62 4.183881 0 69 52368 1 66.03 0 12 4.1901093 0 74 52438 3 63.3 0 15 4.1478853 0 80 52333 3 66.29 0 30 4.194039 0 62 90059 2 60.02 0 15 4.094678 0 47 50666 6 64.89 0 15 4.1726937 0 59 90047 6 64.43 0 15 4.1655793 0 79 52330 4 68.09 0 16 4.2208304 0 80 52702 6 72.13 0 62 4.27847 0 59 90048 2 64.64 0 16 4.1688333 0 70 90057 3 65.86 0 15 4.1875315 0 80 52332 1 65.4 0 62 4.1805224 0 76 52483 6 62.39 0 31 4.133405 0 70 90055 4 65.57 0 16 4.1831183 0 40 50502 2 71.22 0 14 4.265774 0 40 90041 7 64.54 0 16 4.167285 0 74 52732 1 71.09 0 15 4.2639465 0 59 90043 2 64.36 0 15 4.164492 0 80 52749 7 68.33 0 30 4.224349 0 47 50874 7 68.5 0 31 4.226834 0 76 52483 3 62.28 0 30 4.1316404 0 69 52368 3 65.97 0 14 4.1892 0 59 90047 7 65.77 0 16 4.186164 0 40 50509 5 64.57 0 17 4.16775 0 74 52415 5 70.57 0 14 4.256605 0 70 90055 1 65.78 0 15 4.186316 0 59 90048 5 62.16 0 15 4.1297116 0 79 52437 3 68.81 0 14 4.231349 0 79 52437 7 67.4 0 15 4.210645 0 80 52166 2 68.68 0 28 4.229458 0 74 52411 6 63.98 0 15 4.1585703 0 74 52438 4 65.4 0 15 4.1805224 0 80 52247 4 64.43 0 30 4.1655793 0 40 50502 1 68.53 0 16 4.2272716 0 70 90057 7 59.25 0 15 4.0817657 0 80 52115 4 70.76 0 30 4.259294 0 79 52330 2 72.5 0 14 4.2835865 0 80 52333 5 70.67 0 28 4.2580214 0 10 90051 6 71.89 0 15 4.275137 0 74 52415 7 69.89 0 15 4.2469225 0 70 90054 1 62.34 0 16 4.132603 0 79 52251 7 68.11 0 14 4.221124 0 end
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