dropping the outlier

[Khati Zolfaghari]

Hello, I want to know how can I identify and drop the outlier from my data, because when I did a scatterplot it was so weird. This is my descriptive table :

 
Variable
 Obs
 Mean
 Std. Dev.
 Min
 Max

 GDPgrowth
174
-4.787
7.984
-56.308
43.48

Many thanks in advance for your valuable time and advice.

beast regards.

[Carlo Lazzaro]

Khati:
provide that no apparent mistakes occurred in data entry, you should be >100% sure that what you consider as an outlier isn't a perfectly legal observation according to the data generating process you're interested in (as it is quite often th case).

[Khati Zolfaghari]

@Carlo Lazzaro thank you so much for your reply. But how can I drop it to get a rational scatterplot? How can I drop based on the descriptive table?
Many thanks in advance for your valuable time and advice.

best regards,

[Carlo Lazzaro]

Khati:
while I do not sponsor your approach (who can decide when a scatterplot is "rational" without knowing the data generating process?), you may want to consider the following toy-example (that allows you to flag "outliers" without dropping them, which is rarely a good habit):

. sysuse auto.dta
(1978 Automobile Data)

. graph box price

. sum price

    Variable |        Obs        Mean    Std. Dev.       Min        Max
-------------+---------------------------------------------------------
       price |         74    6165.257    2949.496       3291      15906

. g cut_off=2.5*r(sd)

. gen flag=1 if price>=cut_off

. replace flag=0 if flag ==

. graph box price if flag==0

.

[Nick Cox]

Please show us a quantile plot using neglog or asinh scale. NB neglog is sign() * log(1 + abs()).

[Khati Zolfaghari]

@ Nick Cox and @ Carlo Lazzaro thank you so much for your reply.

I attached the quantile plot.
In my scatterplot I want to represent the relationship between ferlity rate and gdpgrowth.

Best regards,

Graph(quantile).gph

[Carlo Lazzaro]

Khati:
if no mistaken data entry was detected, I still think that outliers are part of the game here.

[Khati Zolfaghari]

@Carlo Lazzaro Thank you so much for your reply. Yes, I agree with you, but I want to see what's happen if I exclude them. Because GDP growth is for 2020, and for sure there is no country with GDP growth=43 or even -56, so for this reason I want to see the relationship between the fertility rate and GPD growth with excluding the outlier.

Best regards,

[Carlo Lazzaro]

Khati:
thanks for clarifying.
Then the issue rests on the way GDP growth (rate/year?) was calculated.
Could youplease clarify on that too? Thanks.

[Nick Cox]

Thanks for #6 although .gph attachments are deprecated here and .png attachments explicitly preferred. See https://www.statalist.org/forums/help#stata 12.4 and 12.5

From your .gph attachments -- here rendered as these two graphs

I pick up the following points:

1. Informally I would say that there are four outliers on GDP growth. (and not one outlier as implied by your wording)

2. I don't see much of a relationship between your two variables.

3. Nevertheless if you want to push this further I would compare modelling of

fertility given GDP growth

fertility given GDP growth without the outliers

fertility given GDP growth on an asinh or neglog scale.

You didn't pick up on my request to use one of the latter, but this graph shows that either scale pulls in both positive and negative outliers while being conservative for smaller values near zero (each function has slope 1 at argument zero)

The graph was drawn with scheme s1color and more crucially for your question with

twoway function asinh = asinh(x), ra(-56.308 43.48) || function neglog = sign(x) * log1p(abs(x)), ra(-56.308 43.48) lp(dash)

i.e. over the range reported for GDP growth.

I share @Carlo Lazzaro's puzzlement over how the extreme values arise especially given your denial that they are present in the data.

You could helpfully report the results of

list if abs(GDPgrowth) > 20

[Øyvind Snilsberg]

Because GDP growth is for 2020, and for sure there is no country with GDP growth=43 or even -56, so for this reason I want to see the relationship between the fertility rate and GPD growth with excluding the outlier.

except Guyana and Macao... https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.KD.ZG

[Khati Zolfaghari]

@ Nick Cox Thank you so much for your reply. I apologize fordidn't pick up on to show neglog or asinh scale, I had a problem coding for this I attached a scatterplot ( which I did also wrong to attach and thank you so much for letting me to know).

Thanks alot.

Best regards,